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June 20, 2008 05:45 AM

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MrScott

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Now that the RoboRemote is officially announced as available, we can talk about the details.

I wrote an article describing how I disassembled and modified the RoboRemote.

http://www.robocommunity.com/article/12602/Hacking-the-WowWee-RoboRemote/

There's a lot of potential in this new product. Check it out.

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June 20, 2008 6:52 AM

I think everyone out there should get this, I too will be writting an intro to the remote on how to use it and what you can do and how to share your actions with you friends. This remote once everyone knows how it works will be on one of the hot sellers list, I'll have that article out ASAP
Jax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

June 20, 2008 10:13 AM

If anyone figures out how to send infrared signals through Roboremote please contact me immediately. That goes for recording them too.

Thanks,

Robert

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June 20, 2008 11:21 AM

the RoboRemote can record ir code but its from a WowWee remote only, the chip that is in it has its firmware built into the silicone chip, we have removed the epoxy from the main chip to find this out. As far as I know Nocturnal is looking into this, Correct me if I'm wronh N. but we are still looking into this because this will enhance the remote that much more.
Jax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

June 20, 2008 11:55 AM updated: June 20, 2008 11:56 AM

Very cool, Mr. Scott. Just yesterday, I was looking for my Roboreptile remote; I could find all the other bot remotes, but not that one.
And now, after reading your cool tear-down, I have to have a Roboremote!

Now a question:
With your hack, you only get one way feedback, right? I am trying to think of some feedback loop you could create that would allow the robot to send a "signal/message" back to the remote, thus activating a second behaviour.

It's hurting my brain right now, but here's a my initial reasoning on the subject:
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At least with RSV2 and RSmedia, I know that they are able to SEND an IR signal because of their built-in interaction mode for the other Wowwee robots.

So, what if you programmed Roboremote to do a string of actions and if a certain condition were met, the robot would stop his first RoboRemote behaviour, go into his Robo interactivity mode and send out some signal (maybe the first chunk of IR code he sends out for Roboraptor, but you would have it stopped prematurely so you don't have to watch the whole interaction play out), That singal is then noticed by an IR reciever hacked onto the Roboremote, which, finally, is used to activate another button on the remote.

The ideal solution would be to somehow read the robots sensors directly and use them to "push" the buttons on the remote. But it always leads me back to the question of "How do you get a sensor signal sent back to the RoboRemote?"

Some sort of feedback from the bots would rock because you could create "autonomous" interaction between the bots: Let's say you have RSv2 and Roboraptor hanging out in the living room. Roboraptor goes off walking around like any curious raptor would. But then he bangs into some furniture and does an "OOps, I hit something" routine.

If he was somehow hacked to broadcast the event with IR, the Remote could pick it up and cause Robosapien to respond in some typically sarcastic manner.

Is there anyway to intercept a sensor signal from a bots circuit board or sensors themselves without ruining the way the bot works normally? Can you just attach a couple more leads to the sensors that go to a programmable ir sender. Or maybe to a small microcontroller like an Arduino, that then controls the IR sender? Do voltages decrease overall if you attach several leads out of one sensor, thus returning "weak" signals?

That's an insane posting. let me know if that makes any sense at all. lol.
Or am I making things WAY more complicated than they would need to be?

June 20, 2008 11:57 AM updated: June 20, 2008 11:58 AM

Ok Thanks. But even if I could only use it in "play IR" mode, it would be great to support it from Robodance. I tried getting WowWee to give me what I need to interface with it, and at first their tech guys were open to it, but when they found out how much work it would be to provide me with an interface DLL they had to abandon the project. They use .NET for their stuff and apparently creating DLL's that can be accessed from non-.NET software (what they call "unmanaged" code I believe), takes more time than they have.

I'm hoping someone figures out how to do it anyways and publishes the info, like the WiiLi group did for the WiiMote. God bless those guys. I don't have time to do that sort of probing these days.

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June 20, 2008 12:45 PM

what stores are going to sell the remote

June 22, 2008 4:54 AM

GWJax said:the RoboRemote can record ir code but its from a WowWee remote only, the chip that is in it has its firmware built into the silicone chip, we have removed the epoxy from the main chip to find this out. As far as I know Nocturnal is looking into this, Correct me if I'm wronh N. but we are still looking into this because this will enhance the remote that much more.

I've more or less finished looking. The ability to receiver or transmit non-WowWee signals, while being a nice idea, probably does not exist. If it does exist, we are probably not going to find it (unless WowWee decideds to use it for something).

altwolf said:Or maybe to a small microcontroller like an Arduino, that then controls the IR sender

 At the point you start including a microcontroller, you may as well ditch the RoboRemote, because you can wire the microcontroller directly into the output from the IR Receiver and transmits your signals directly. Which is what people have been doing since the original RoboSapien was released.

altwolf said:Some sort of feedback from the bots would rock because you could create "autonomous" interaction between the bots: Let's say you have RSv2 and Roboraptor hanging out in the living room. Roboraptor goes off walking around like any curious raptor would. But then he bangs into some furniture and does an "OOps, I hit something" routine. If he was somehow hacked to broadcast the event with IR, the Remote could pick it up and cause Robosapien to respond in some typically sarcastic manner.

This you could actually do (though only with something that has a simple touch sensor, unless you add your own touch sensors), with just the RoboRemote wired in to the touch sensors (Some inverting may be necessry depending on if the sensor is active high or active low). By making the first command in a sequence a stop command, you could even overide the default "I hit something" behaviour.

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June 22, 2008 4:57 AM

roschler said: If anyone figures out how to send infrared signals through Roboremote please contact me immediately. That goes for recording them too. Thanks, Robert
I believe I already have sent you all the information I have, but just in case, I will send it to you again.

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June 22, 2008 5:50 PM

Nocturnal said:I believe I already have sent you all the information I have, but just in case, I will send it to you again.

Yes, thank you very much for that and I already sent you a reply.

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