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Hello everybody!
If you haven't gotten a chance to check out the latest news about WowWee's collaboration with Disney, check it out here:
What do all of you think of this news? We'd love to hear your thoughts!
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That's good news for WowWee. I have high hopes that the Wall*E licensed products will play out as well as the Cars and Robots lines have.
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Is this the same "Ultimate Wall-E" that we discussed a while ago in this other thread?
http://www.robocommunity.com/forum/thread/13131/pre-built-Wall-e-robots/
This quote from the Engadget news item on this topic states
Ultimate WALL-E will list for $190 when launched sometime this summer and feature 10 motors, a remote control, and plenty of sensors to avoid obstacles, respond to touch, and feel the mocking satire of its own existence. The bot will be joined by a $25 iDance WALL-E.
Sounds like excellent starting fodder for jumpstarting some Wall-E hacks. $190 is still a bit out of my toy zone, but list prices rarely stay that high for long.
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It certainly looks like it could be the same 'bot from the picture.
Just to clarify though, if you click through to the official press release, you'll see that WowWee is making the Tinkerbell toy that was announced, but not the Ultimate Wall-E. The Ultimate Wall-E and the other Wall-E licensed products are being made by Thinkway Toys, according to the release.
Official Press Release by BusinessWire
It takes some close reading to decipher who is making what :)
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Ahhhh.... a subtlety there, then. It's the FlyTech technology that WowWee's throwing into the licensed product pot. That may still give them some profitable exposure in the market, though.
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Absolutely!
I think Tinkerbell is, and always has been, a popular icon with adults and children alike. I can't tell you how many keychains, t-shirts, folders, mugs, etc. I've seen that feature Tinkerbell!
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Who should we 'volunteer' to flight test the Tinkerbell? heh heh, rubs hands gleeflully!
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Mrscott, that`s the one that`s one!
I was hoping that Wow Wee would make toys for Wall-e, and my hopes dropped when I saw the robot, but I didn`t know that Wow Wee made it! The ultimat bot seems to deserve the name- and the price. How much is the speaker system? (Wall-e`s awsome!!!)
edit: I read Peter Redmer`s 2nd post- it stinks that Wow Wee won`t be making the wall-e stuff. Oh well. I still want one.
I also noticed that Mrscott said that the speakers are $25.
Not bad...
rybuger1 said: I was hoping that Wow Wee would make toys for Wall-e, and my hopes dropped when I saw the robot, but I didn`t know that Wow Wee made it!
Read Peter's clarification a few posts further up in the thread. The WowWee contribution to the licensed products is the flying TinkerBell. The robots are not made by WowWee.
We'll have to see if the ThinkWay robots are up to our hackability expectations.
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I`ll be pretty happy if I can add a slidepot for volume control- unless that`s alreadt in there.
Tinker Bell is a direct to video movie being released by Disney later this year, somehow I don't see it as being a fantastic marketing opportunity for Wow Wee, but then again, a foot in the Disney door probably can't be bad.
I will be particularly interesting in seeing how the Ultimate Wall-E compares to the say, the RS Media.
Can you see smiles ALL over my face guys, 


I bet you can. Does anybody know what the size of this product is?? Similar to my one 100mm x 150mm x 160mm or is it bigger, Id'e be pushing to get 10 motors in mine, so it could be bigger.
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Hmmmmm.... ten motors. Where and what could those be?
2x treads
2x arm raise
2x grippers
1x head tilt
1x head rotate?
2x arm extend?
I'm thinking this will be along the lines of the R2D2 Astromech, rather than an RSMedia.
Put a NorthStar navigation system in there, like the Rovio will have, and I'd be more willing to pry loose $190.
http://www.evolution.com/products/northstar/works.masn
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The photo looks like his grippers might work independently, so you might have up to 3 motors per hand, tho more likely 2... instead of the arm extend? Head rotate is likely also.
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Are you refering to the Hasbro R2D2?
It apparently comes with a USB cable and is MP3 "compatible". From the description, (and the number of motors), its a lot closer to an RS Media than you might think.
I really hate reading press releases. Here is the relevant part I pulled out of one.
Based on the title character from this summer's highly anticipated Disney/Pixar theatrical release, the Ultimate WALL-E is an advanced robot that truly brings the character to life. Designed and developed through a close collaboration between Disney, Pixar animators and Thinkway, the Ultimate WALL-E features 10 motors, giving it a high level of movement and animation. The remote control makes it easy for kids to program WALL-E's movements. An innovative touch programming system lets kids direct WALL-E simply by making patterns on the remote's touch pad. With voice activation and a follow-me mode, WALL-E can follow the sound of a human voice and detect someone entering a room. He also has several emotional states and an easy system for programming thousands of combinations of movements with the remote. Numerous sensors allow him to detect and respond to his environment, including infrared sensors that allow him to detect obstacles and steer around them, sonic ears that detect sound direction, and touch sensors. The Ultimate WALL-E is also MP3 compatible and features built-in speakers. USB cables and rechargeable batteries are included. The Ultimate WALL-E will debut this fall at ToysRUs and www.disneyshopping.com; SRP $189.99.
I didn't read anything about programmable personalities, or a software developers kit.
Voice recognition and follow me - like the Hasbro R2
No mention of image capture or display capabilities that the RSMedia has.
There was no mention of PC programming, only programming via the remote control. Updating the MP3 playlist may be the only thing the USB is used for.
I hope for more. I'm just not sure I see it penciled in the margins of that news release.
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MrScott said: I didn't read anything about programmable personalities, or a software developers kit.
Ah. Now your talking software. The programable personalities on the RS Media are little more than complicated playlists. There is no PUBLICLY available SDK for the RS Media either.
No, no mention of a camera or LCD, but then I didn't say they were identical, just that I would like to do a comparison. The programming via the touch pad remote sounds interesting, though I do have to wonder if it works the way they are describing it. "thousands of combinations of movements" sounds promising, though one program of 5 steps, with 5 possible moves that can be programmed into each step has thousands of combinations.
Of course, until the specs are more finalised and detailed, speculation is all we have.
So far it all sounds interesting and definitely worth buying. I like the 1,000's of programmable options, we will have to see on that one.
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Nocturnal said:MrScott said: I didn't read anything about programmable personalities, or a software developers kit.Ah. Now your talking software.
No, I'm talking "function". It's a package deal.
The assertion was made that this may be on par with an RSMedia.
I was simply comparing the nebulous list of features against the Hasbro R2 unit as another point of measure.
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The "functions" that you are refering to, are software based.
Well then, lets compare all 3 then. I don't have a R2D2 or (surprisingly) an Ultimate Wall-e, but I will use the above press release and this page for the comparison.
The R2D2 has 3 motors, the Ultimate Wall-E has 10, the RS Media has 12.
The R2D2 and Wall-E can both react to human voices (and "follow" it), while the RS Media can only identify loud noises.
The Ultimate Wall-E and the RS Media both have IR proximity sensors, while the R2D2 has a IR heat sensor and an Ultrasonic "Radar.
The RS Media has touch sensors to avoid obstacles, the R2D2 has a sensor for you to "smack him on the head", while the Wall-E has "numerous" sensors for detecting and avoiding obstacles.
The RS Media and the Ultimate Wall-E can both be connected to a PC via USB, the R2D2 cannot.
The RS Media can record and playback MP3's, the R2D2 cannot use MP3's at all, and the Ultimate Wall-E is MP3 "compatible".
The RS Media can capture and display images, The R2D2 cannot and the Ultimate Wall-e cannot.
The R2D2 cannot be programed, The Ultimate Wall-E is programmable, and the RS Media is programmable on several levels.
The R2D2 does not have a remote, the RS Media has a remote, The Ultimate Wall-E has a remote with a touch pad.
The R2D2 has one personality, the Ultimate Wall-E has one personality with "moods" and the RS Media has multiple.
Just to be clear The Ultimate Wall-E is a lot closer to the RS Media that the R2D2 is. That does not mean they are on the same level (and I am not attempting to imply they are), nor does it cover the gap that still remains.
I am under no delusions that the Ultimate Wall-E will be partially linux based like the RS Media, or that there will be much opportunity for getting in and muddling with his programming.
I don't own an RSMedia or an R2, so I can only go by second hand knowledge.
My understanding of the RSMedia mechanicals is based on my RSV2.
I have read that R2 has various modes of operation involving his "mood", and that he has different "emotional" responses given when asked questions such as
"Do you remember Princess Leia?"
versus
"Do you remember Darth Vader?"
By "function" I'm combining the mechanicals with the base ability to get things done with those mechanicals. I can tell an RSV2 to pick something up, and it will grab at a predetermined spot. I can show an RSV2 a green ball, and it will ask for it, look for nearby red pins, and throw the ball at the pins. It will similarly take an offered red pin, look for other pins, and drop the new pin with the other pins.
At least that's the advertised ability of the RSV2. The reality of the reliability of this color recognition and bowling behavior is somewhat less than what's described in the marketing brochure.
You're right that the rest is somewhat idle speculation, as we won't know what the Ulti Wall-E is capable of until some independent reviews are available.
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Apparently the R2D2 does have a mood indicator light, and will refuse commands when in a "bad" mood.
I have both RS Media and R2D2; the R2 *can* be programmed in a rudimentary way, by storing navigation commands and replaying. Not sure offhand the number of program steps available, but it is something like 'direction & distance'. 'Forward 5 units', then 'turn right 5 units', then 'backward 3 units' etc. R2 can also be put into 'guard mode'. The moods are really only 'happy' and 'sad' and then only way to see the difference is to command him to play the cantina music (2 versions). I haven't seen the mood indicator light, but he does occasionally refuse commands.
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I nominate Milw as the voice of first hand experience and reason with regards to evaluating R2 versus RSMedia (and hopefully Ultimate Wall-E) comparisons.
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