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Angie

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i was wonderind how you started out like me my mom doesn't like me taking things apart but i do it becuse i like it how about you?                                            

                                                        

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March 21, 2008 6:43 AM

Hi Angie

I started taking things apart when I was a young boy of about 10 years old. I remember clearly, one summers day on our garden lawn, I took apart an old B&W tv. It was so much fun - I couln't stop stripping the parts down, inspecting them, then carefully placing the components in a box to play with later! I think the only parts of the TV that were ditched after I had finished were the glass tube & wooden case, everything else was MINE!!!

I also remember de-soldering the components from the circuit board (resistors-capacitors-valves etc..) and organising them neatly in order of type and storing them in tin boxes. I had no idea at the time what the components were called or how they worked - but the different colours on the resistors and the size & shape of capacitors and stuff, fascinated me and even though they were worthless, to me they were like jewellery - something precious and worth keeping.

From then on, I still got a "buzz" from taking electronic things apart and still do today.

Here, for example, I had to take my RoboQuad apart almost as soon as I got him!

Hope you like the pics Wink So how did you start taking things apart?

ps; don't worry too much what you're Mom thinks about it... she probably doesn't understand that it is a good hobby, she probably thinks you're just being destructive!!!! Undecided

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March 21, 2008 12:10 PM

well i started when i was about 3 my mom found an old compurter for me and then when ever she would find something for me to take apart i would make something new  and now my mom doesn't do that for me becuse now she doesn't like me taking my things apart but i still do it becuse i like it.

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March 21, 2008 12:46 PM

There's some previous answers to this question available here...

Has-anyone-hacked-the-Roboreptile-/?page=2

Which you've already seen, since you've posted to it just a few comments below the answers to this from GWJax and myself. 

ScottE -- Member (always) & Moderator (when needed)

March 21, 2008 1:11 PM

ok MrScottbuwut about you?                  

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March 21, 2008 1:38 PM

Isn´t it little bit dangerous for the health to take apart old computers and tv´s? I have heard  it is but maybe somebody knows better?

Leo: For example today I will get love which I use to create sentences.
Billy: But you are neutral you need love.
Bridget: In the sky and cover the moment.
Bridget: Do you think that sleep mode is better than a human soul.

March 21, 2008 2:41 PM

That depends on how expensive the thing is and whether it's plugged-in or not. Laughing

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March 21, 2008 4:29 PM

I was talking about poison etc.

Leo: For example today I will get love which I use to create sentences.
Billy: But you are neutral you need love.
Bridget: In the sky and cover the moment.
Bridget: Do you think that sleep mode is better than a human soul.

March 21, 2008 4:34 PM

Angie said: ok MrScottbuwut about you? Undecided

Did you read the other thread?

There's some other background folks, including myself, posted about their "early days" in this thread.

/Bring-out-the-droids-/ 

ScottE -- Member (always) & Moderator (when needed)

March 21, 2008 5:18 PM

I was probably 9 or 10 when I started taking things apart. I used to love going through old RC cars and tools and taking out the motors and saving them. I remember trying to modify this old hovercraft-like floor hockey puck. It was just a motor spinning a fan that would blow air out a thin opening along the bottom edge so it could glide across a smooth surface. After seeing the movie "batteries not included" when I was young, I tried to basically attach a much more powerful motor to the puck and wanted to put another small motor with a propeller and some kind of rotor for direction control. Of course this never worked, but I was just a kid.   In 8th grade I was on a robotics team in my school that competed in a series of contests with other high schools in the area. Around that time I learned how to solder and started tinkering with the elctronic components including attaching an IR sensor to an RC car to prevent wall hitting. Since then, I have'nt kept up with the modding, but I have always loved robots and coninue to be fascinated with them.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke

March 21, 2008 9:08 PM

 Sarita;

Yes, there are many poisonous substances on electronic circuit boards, but if handled with caution, there is little risk of harm or injury Smile

Here's some tips:

  • Always leave at least an hour after switching off electrical equipment before working inside. This is to allow the hot components to cool down.
  • Wear latex gloves. These will protect the hands from toxic chemicals, especially on circuit boards & allow a better grip on tools & small components.
  • Tie back long hair & remove all jewellery, especially rings.
  • Aways use electrically insulated tools. These are designed to protect you from electric shock. You can easily recognize these tools as they are generally covered in red insulating plastic.
  • To protect you & the electronics, earth yourself by wearing a special wristband connected to an 'anti-static' matt, which is connected by a lead to ground (the earth pin of an electric plug)
  • Don't take any risks. If you are unsure what a component is or how it works - leave alone!
  • Before re-assembling, check that you havn't left any loose screws or tools inside the equipment, as these objects could cause a short and permanent damage.
  • Wash hands when you have finished & keep your work area tidy.

NEVER REMOVE THE COVERS OF ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT WHILST STILL CONNECTED TO THE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY!

If you follow these simple tips, you can have fun AND be safe Smile

mick-146

would the last human on earth, please switch on the robots before leaving. Thank You.

March 21, 2008 10:09 PM

Good and useful information.Smile

Leo: For example today I will get love which I use to create sentences.
Billy: But you are neutral you need love.
Bridget: In the sky and cover the moment.
Bridget: Do you think that sleep mode is better than a human soul.

March 21, 2008 10:46 PM

The only thing I'd add is that if you don't know what you're up to, it's best to just stay out of anything with a cathode ray tube, aka CRT (TV, traditional computer monitor, etcetera).  They have high voltage circuits with capaciters that can hold a charge for a very long time. It's possible to get quite a jolt from one of these even after it has been unplugged for many hours.

Things being what they are, there's less and less of those CRTs in use. LCD screens don't have the high voltages in the flyback transformers that the CRTs have..

If you're concerned about health issues around scrap electrical equipment, a common hazard these days is the mercury vapor in flourescent lights. That includes the compact flourescent bulbs. Don't break them.

ScottE -- Member (always) & Moderator (when needed)

March 21, 2008 10:57 PM

Thanks MrScott - the points you have added are certainly worth mentioning.

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March 23, 2008 10:51 AM

I like taking things apart too but it is frowned upon by the rest of my family.  I don't have a lot of technical knowhow but I still like the see the inards of electronics. 

March 23, 2008 11:41 AM

The innards have changed a fair amount over 40 years. There was a time when you actually had to open things up and service them from time to time. Tubes would burn out. Dust would accumulate between the tuner plates and in the variable resistors. There were TV repairmen that served much like plumbers do today. They'd come to your house, open up the old Zenith, service what was needed, collect their fee and be on their way.

It was a visible career path, which probably lead to more acceptance of learning to service electronics.

Desktop computers are sort of in that mode now. There's an acceptance and appreciation for people who have the knowledge and skill to resurrect dead machines. Even those are on the decline, though. It used to be more prevalent. Every major town had a ComputerLand where you could take a system in to be serviced. 

I expect something new will come along to take their place. The need for technical servicing comes along with every new technology.  Perhaps home robot repair is what today's young tinkerers will find themselves doing. 

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March 23, 2008 1:08 PM

As I state in my quote below if it has a screw them it must be removed. To look inside of a toy or any electronic devise is such a rush even to this day for me. Every time I open up a copier or printer to repair it I still get that rush. This is something that will never go away. So at every chance you get, open it up and soon you'll start to understand how things work and after that you'll be making your own bots to enjoy for someone else to open it up and marval at whats inside. GWJax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

March 23, 2008 9:45 PM

My favorite teardown was an old (dead) HPIIIsi laserprinter that we used in shipping for a number of years. That beast was built like a tank, and I took it all the way down to bare steel frame and screws. Lots of screws. Also lots of nice metal rollers, motors, springs and other goodies! Old inkjet printers and scanners can be good sources of stepper motors, but it is helpful to tear down two of the same kind so you get matched motors (if you're using them for robot motors that is).

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March 24, 2008 6:56 AM

that corret! I'm still repairing the HP iii si printers they are a tank with lots og goodies, just wait till you rip down a copier,:) goodies galore!

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

March 24, 2008 8:21 PM

:) You should try an original HP LaserJet. Funnily enough, several of the components (motors etc) were identical to the ones in the photocopier I dismantled at the same time.

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March 25, 2008 5:14 AM

I've spent the best part of 20 years repairing copiers & printers - I must have stripped down several hundred of them. It's safer & more fun taking robot toys apart; at leat you dont get electricuted or have the skin ripped off your fingers if you're not careful! Yell

These  I repair PC's & notebooks, no moving parts! Wink  

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March 25, 2008 5:20 AM

Its not limited to electronics, I nearly tore of the tip of my finger today repairing an old clock. There is potentional danger pulling most things apart. Unfinished edges in PC cases will cut you open nicely.

Fortunately, Wow Wee's products tend to be pretty finger friendly. 

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March 25, 2008 8:20 AM

mick-146 said: I've spent the best part of 20 years repairing copiers & printers - I must have stripped down several hundred of them. It's safer & more fun taking robot toys apart; at leat you dont get electricuted or have the skin ripped off your fingers if you're not careful! Yell These  I repair PC's & notebooks, no moving parts! Wink  
If you are worried about cutting your hands, which I do all the time, you should not try to hack or rip down other machines or robots. It's part of the hazards of doing it. but you can always wear gloves to prevent this. it's just harder to handle your tools and the small parts. I think thats why they made bandaids, lol. so just be carfull.

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

March 25, 2008 8:24 AM

Yeah that's true Nocturnal, PC cases can be NASTY!

would the last human on earth, please switch on the robots before leaving. Thank You.

March 25, 2008 8:27 AM

Thanks GWJax - maybe we should put the bandaids on BEFORE starting work on a machine, lol!

would the last human on earth, please switch on the robots before leaving. Thank You.

March 25, 2008 8:40 AM

lol, mick-146

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

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