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February 1, 2008 09:26 PM

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RobosapienV2-4mem8

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Hello Guys, On another thread we have been talking about building a Wall-E robot, So I though I would start another thread dedicated to this project. Let me know if you want an article on this then the powers that be can publish it on robocommunity when it is ready [How to project] It will take a bit of time to do as time permits, But I can upload some teasers as I go just to keep you all interested. The building of Wall-E should pose no problems, But programming it will for me and GWjax has offered to help in this area when the time comes. What I plan to do: 1. Use my Mattracks as the main drive unit
2. Motor drive gear motors using H bridge controllers
3. Pan/tilt head using Parallax ultra sonic ping
4. 3 GP2D12 IR edge detectors or similar detectors
5. raise and lower the arms as a pair [up and down only]
6. raise and lower the front door
7. [Maybe not sure yet] raise and lower the head
8.Use Parallax ping in both eyes
9. airbrush Wall-E to look authentic as possible.
10. Fit a uOLED in the front panel
11. Use a Parallax emic text to speech chip for wall-e's voice
12. Fit Ultra bright blue LEDs in Wall-E's eyes
13. Make a pair of H bridges for the drive motors

I will post a pic today of photo's I have found and the [As not yet decided] drive setup. Any comments welcome and if you find any more Wall-E pics that would be appreciated. I need a rear end view. [elusive]

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February 1, 2008 9:34 PM

That's a lot more ambitious than my meager plans for adapting an RC Diablo BattleBot for a Wall-E.

Our regular viewers know I have a large collection of 1:6 scale figures, including bots. That's the scale I'm looking towards. 

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February 1, 2008 9:43 PM

Always looking at the butt are you.LOL Why limit the arms as one? make them independant. It would look better if they where. And nice platform you picked out. The head must move up and down and make it comptete AI controlled. no user interface unless firmware must be updated. and don't forget the sounds and lights. Am I making it harder on you yet? If not give me a little bit longer, I will. For batteries I'd use the R/C controlled Batteries with at least 3600 mAh and make it a dule pack. Oh and a self docking station. can't forget that one.

At least with my Elvinator "small plug for my project"  I can use a wall jack. hahaha With all the amps this thing is pulling the batteries wont do the trick for long.

GWJax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

February 1, 2008 9:45 PM

Nice one MrScott, Look forward to your creation. Mine is a bit ambitious, Just hope I can pull it of now I've said I'm going to, Ha Ha.

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February 1, 2008 10:07 PM

Here are a couple of pics, Gotta start somewhere.

Mattracks, Parallax HB25 servo and motor controllers, and yes a pair of low geared Rsv2 leg motors and two metal geared servos, I,3 amp gelcel. May not use any of these yet Except the mattracks, just doodling at present.

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February 1, 2008 11:21 PM

GWJax said: Always looking at the butt are you.LOL Why limit the arms as one? make them independant. It would look better if they where. And nice platform you picked out. The head must move up and down and make it comptete AI controlled. no user interface unless firmware must be updated. and don't forget the sounds and lights. Am I making it harder on you yet? If not give me a little bit longer, I will. For batteries I'd use the R/C controlled Batteries with at least 3600 mAh and make it a dule pack. Oh and a self docking station. can't forget that one. At least with my Elvinator "small plug for my project"  I can use a wall jack. hahaha With all the amps this thing is pulling the batteries wont do the trick for long. GWJax
  Yes you are making it harder for me, [But what else would I come to expect from you] Are you bearing in mind that the BS2p40 range of stamps has to accomodate all of these functions within the 20ms period and servos would take most of this. Unless we use a co-processor, I do have two of Harry's [Bluebell design co-processors but these are in use by other bots. How much processing power does the Parallax psc 16 channel servo controller use?????.

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February 2, 2008 12:07 AM

Forget most of the parallex cooponents, Well build them to what we need or at least you will. hehehe I see the propeller chip comming in handy now, and I'm going to us them in the Elvinator. This is the only thing I can think of when it comes to speed and alot of i/o and running eeproms and connecting another propeller to it. I'll have enough power to run mine and yours at the same time. Buy the chip its only 12.99 and add the rest of the components for about 10 bucks more. Although I'll have to see if I can use the 50Mhz chip instead of the 20Mhz in this chip. Do you know?

the 16 channel I beleive only uses 3 pins for all 16 and add another one to get 32 I/O lines. But you have 32 i/o lins on the bs2p40 so your looking at 64 i/o lines I think you'll have enough. as of the power it does not come from the basic stamp its self it has it's own power supply that you provide. the BS can only handle upto 100ma so use them only for switching through hbridges. GWJax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

February 2, 2008 12:38 AM

Don't know to much about the prop chip, I do know that it is great for robotics. The only trouble living in NZ is that it cost heaps to get anything from the states. It would cost me $50 nz for the chip and I would get a board to fit it, It's the freight that's the killer. Parallax only uses two types of freight Fedex and UPs both have a standing charge of about $70-100 US so makes it very expensive. Plus it would mean learning another code, spin. Also you might need the prop stick USB for programming it $79.95 US. Or the prop starter kit At $99.00 Us this all adds up to quite a bit nz wise. So it would have been nice to use the BS2P40 As I HAVE ALL THE PARTS. But it may not handle all the requirements needed.

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February 2, 2008 7:17 PM

The prop chip only cost 12.95 us and you have to add the 20 mhz res to it pluss an eeprom instaed of buying the the complete chip set with these parts added to 1 chip. the programing is almost like the pbasic code so you would not have to learn an entirly new lang just the structure of it.  I'll PM you with more options. GWJa

and you don't have to buy the usb jump connector there are otherways around it.

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

February 2, 2008 10:51 PM

Nice plan, 4mem8. I'm sure you'll come up with a reasonably priced alternative to the Prop (say, why don't you become the NZ distributor for Parallax? then they can pay the shipping and you can turn a profit!). I didn't make it to the movie theater today, I'll try tomorrow (Sunday here in US). I'm sure they'll think I'm crazy to be taking pictures of the backend of a marketing prop!

So what are the dimensions on the Matracks? If those are standard servos, I'd say it looks like the main body might be a cube about 6 inches on a side? Maybe as much as 8"?

cheers- Scott 

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February 3, 2008 12:10 AM

GWjax: Look forward to the options.

Milw: I

have already tried the with Parallax, There is already a distributor in NZ, But they do not stock a great deal, You have to wait till they get enough orders then they send to the US for it. To slow for me. Plus you would need a fair bit of doh to buy the products.

 The Mattracks are !60mmL x 100mmH x 50mmW A decent size so you are not far of being between 6-8" Sq. So you have a prop of Wall-E Milw, that would be great if you can acquire that for me.

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February 3, 2008 12:58 AM

Once again your getting ripped off in NZ. I can pickup a prop chip for $24.20AUD, and they throw in a  suitable crystal and eeprom. The demo board is $220AUD. 

February 3, 2008 1:00 AM

Yeah, Tell me about it Nocturnal, I might just have to buy from Aussie, Exchange rate is pretty good.

Got a good link Nocturnal? 

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February 3, 2008 1:08 AM

I haven't bought anything off them, so I can't make a personal recomendation, but there is

http://www.nollet.com.au/pricelist.htm

February 3, 2008 1:24 AM

M'mmm It's cheaper to buy from the states.Example: BS2P40 $89 U.S = $111.97 NZ. Aussie $132.00 = $150.52NZ.

NZ link.http://www.basicstamps.co.nz/productspage.htm

BS2P40 $160.00

People yearn after this robotic dream, but you can't strip your life of all meaning, emotion and feeling and expect to function.


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February 3, 2008 2:06 AM

Until you have to pay shipping and import duties.

February 3, 2008 2:10 AM

Just depends on who I get to send it, Sometimes I do not get charged duty.

People yearn after this robotic dream, but you can't strip your life of all meaning, emotion and feeling and expect to function.


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February 3, 2008 2:06 PM

Here's some reference photos of the movie theater prop- it's big- sitting on a 1m^3 box and I'd say he's also about 1m high. These are linked to the full res images (2 Mb jpeg, 5 megapixel).

Back:
WallE back

Right:
WallE Right
 

Front:
WallE Front

Left:
WallE Left

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February 3, 2008 5:20 PM

Milw: Brilliant pics, Thanks a bunch. One thing I noticed is that your pics of the rear end show the door to be in this area, In the movie it shows it in the front??

People yearn after this robotic dream, but you can't strip your life of all meaning, emotion and feeling and expect to function.


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February 3, 2008 5:43 PM

If you watch the trailer again you'll see its the right way around. The yellow panel on the front is the door / hatch.

February 3, 2008 5:57 PM

That's what I thought Nocturnal, Just looking at the Pics the door rams appear to be at the rear?

People yearn after this robotic dream, but you can't strip your life of all meaning, emotion and feeling and expect to function.


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February 3, 2008 8:44 PM

Milw, Nice job. Man I would love to have that prop.

4mem8, Hurry up on the first article so I can get started on the Wall-E along with the Elvinator. They would be a good match togeather, Have Wall-E pick up Elvinator and carry him around so he can see the rest of his surroundings. Or at least communicate with each other and have Wall-E do the Elivinators business in destroying all of his computition except his creator. Which would be me of course. LOL GWJax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

February 3, 2008 8:55 PM

Here's a great Vid on the construction of Wall-E incase you have not seen it yet

GWJax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

February 3, 2008 10:20 PM

GWjax: I do not have the time as you may have, But I will do my best. Have seen the video, Thanks for posting it here. Definatley front loading.

People yearn after this robotic dream, but you can't strip your life of all meaning, emotion and feeling and expect to function.


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February 3, 2008 10:28 PM

No prob. 4mem8 I was just kidding on you getting out your first article but I can't wait for it. And mine should arive live on Monday I hope. GWJax

GWJax, To Hack and make mods on robots is a life style and comes natural and not by choice. If a robot has a screw to open it then it must be opened!

February 3, 2008 11:22 PM

Well i have decided to use this configuiration using two of my RSV2 geared foot motors. I can now start planning the rest.

Wall-E here we come.

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